The Mac Observer

 
   
3 of 8
3
AAPL Intraday Updates (Archive)
Posted: 07 July 2009 08:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
stars_5
Total Posts:  1381
Joined  2007-11-09
cramar - 06 July 2009 12:04 PM
Mayor Quimby - 06 July 2009 10:39 AM

I like FAZ.

Me2!

Anyone trading FAZ/FAS should be aware that they are reverse splitting on Thursday.

 Signature 

!#$% Congress

“There is only one side to the stock market; and it is not the bull side or the bear side, but the right side.” - Jesse Livermore

Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 08:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
stars_1
Total Posts:  9
Joined  2009-07-06

AAPL today to 141 perhaps? 

Wow I will move to the dark side.  Where the Brit auditing firm has BAC, GS, JPM, AIG, C, TWX, IBM and most other GIANT corp clients under one roof and there are only 4 big ones your right… They can and do what is best for them and their paying clients since they also fund and pay fees to their own regulating agencies for odds in their favor.  (CK all 10k audit reports for signing firm)

They will own our so called free country and you will be the lord of the surfs in the land of Milk and Honey.

We are all trying to be plantation owners here and someones got to do the slave work. 

Guess we all should watch our own backs….

Still don’t like BAC technical yet but will change mind when it suits me… Thank you for the enlightening analysis.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 08:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
stars_5
Total Posts:  1381
Joined  2007-11-09
NOOP - 07 July 2009 08:24 AM

AAPL today to 141 perhaps? 

Wow I will move to the dark side.  Where the Brit auditing firm has BAC, GS, JPM, AIG, C, TWX, IBM and most other GIANT corp clients under one roof and there are only 4 big ones your right… They can and do what is best for them and their paying clients since they also fund and pay fees to their own regulating agencies for odds in their favor.  (CK all 10k audit reports for signing firm)

They will own our so called free country and you will be the lord of the surfs in the land of Milk and Honey.

We are all trying to be plantation owners here and someones got to do the slave work. 

Guess we all should watch our own backs….

Still don’t like BAC technical yet but will change mind when it suits me… Thank you for the enlightening analysis.

If the broader markets cooperate, aapl will easily see 141.

 Signature 

!#$% Congress

“There is only one side to the stock market; and it is not the bull side or the bear side, but the right side.” - Jesse Livermore

Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 08:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
stars_big_2
Total Posts:  5601
Joined  2006-02-10

AAPL made a valiant attempt to close the gap below 139.79, but missed by 10 cents. Let’s see if it makes another attempt on it.

EDIT: I’m still watching this gap. I believe the bears got in a little too quick and dragged things down just a bit too soon. I still believe that this gap is begging to be filled, but I think there will be way too much overhead resistance around 140.

[ Edited: 07 July 2009 09:35 AM by wheeles ]
Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 10:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
stars_1
Total Posts:  9
Joined  2009-07-06

Great analysis wheels.  Tough mkts no wind behind sails.  Tacking downwind in rough waters spells lost cookies for me.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 10:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
stars_big_1
Avatar
Total Posts:  3299
Joined  2007-08-06

Watching the 888-890 on the S&P - if it breaks below that, it might get nasty. All eyes are on AA on Wednesday after the bell.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 10:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
stars_big_2
Total Posts:  5601
Joined  2006-02-10

One of the reasons we are bumping along at this level is because we are at a channel bottom (in fact, just below it as I type). Previous tags of this channel bottom were on 23 June and yesterday. I’m inclined to think that if the lows of yesterday are broken, then the channel is a bust. However, we might well see another rally like yesterday if we get a sudden spike up as a lot of cover stops will get hit and other bulls playing this channel will be tempted in. If the rally scenario plays out, I can see it getting sold towards the end of the day rather than it going up and up until the close.

Let’s see how things unfold…

EDIT: OK we broke below yesterday’s low, but there’s quite a bit of support at 136.

[ Edited: 07 July 2009 10:54 AM by wheeles ]
Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 10:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
stars_big_3
Total Posts:  11421
Joined  2003-08-07

Mayor,

I agree with your view.  However, reverting to un-leverage position means many securities won’t return to their peaks and many physical assets (especially houses) would stay at current prices for a very long time.  This would bring down many “too large to fail” banks, leading to a deeper recession than if they don’t fail and many unhappy Americans, which could bring about social unrest and even civil wars.

 Signature 

Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.  - Steve Jobs

Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 11:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
stars_5
Avatar
Total Posts:  1014
Joined  2008-06-23
Mace - 07 July 2009 10:53 AM

Mayor,

I agree with your view.  However, reverting to un-leverage position means many securities won’t return to their peaks and many physical assets (especially houses) would stay at current prices for a very long time.  This would bring down many “too large to fail” banks, leading to a deeper recession than if they don’t fail and many unhappy Americans, which could bring about social unrest and even civil wars.

Not at all Mace.  There is no such thing as too big to fail - only too big to prop up.  Look around you - pension funds are already WAY underfunded.  The country has a barely sustainable debt load.  Anything we do going forward hurts something else:

1.  If we print money to fill the holes on the banks’ balance sheets we dilute the currency and push up oil and other commodity prices.  This kills J6P.
2.  If we try and borrow more money for another stimulus, China et al will demand more interest as our default risk is going up.  We are also issuing so much supply that yields will spike.  This kills housing DEAD and therefore whatever loans are still on the banks’ balance sheets.  So the banks die too eventually.  This also means the average American’s tax burden going forward will go up PRECIPITOUSLY.  This kills the middle class.

So what can we do?  We need to collapse the toxic, cancerous banks and use the MANY TRILLIONS of bailout dollars to backstop the fallout.  With the 5 or 6 trillion we’ve already spent, we could have backstopped almost all the the pension liabilities and more.  Make no mistake - bailing out the banks is neither logical nor moral.  It is a quid pro quo to the very people that BOUGHT up our Congresscritters over the past 20 or so years.

 Signature 

The ends don’t justify the means…

Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 11:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
stars_big_2
Total Posts:  5601
Joined  2006-02-10
Mayor Quimby - 07 July 2009 11:08 AM

So what can we do?  We need to collapse the toxic, cancerous banks and use the MANY TRILLIONS of bailout dollars to backstop the fallout.  With the 5 or 6 trillion we’ve already spent, we could have backstopped almost all the the pension liabilities and more.  Make no mistake - bailing out the banks is neither logical nor moral.  It is a quid pro quo to the very people that BOUGHT up our Congresscritters over the past 20 or so years.

Too true. And as for AIG, the Govt. should have underwritten the conventional insurance side of the business (that part which serves the average Joe and his house/car insurance, and normal insurance policies for businesses), and let the whole CDS thing go to the wall. Sure, the banks get whacked, but that’s what happens when you play an unregulated game with no checks in place to see whether the counterparty in your bet has the funds to cover it.

All the money wasted on bailing out the banks could have gone into providing an alternative source of funding for businesses and citizens using sensible lending criteria. That would have staved off a lot of the bankruptcies and served to provide a level of support for both jobs and housing.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 11:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
stars_big_2
Total Posts:  5601
Joined  2006-02-10

It’s possible that we may have just seen the low for AAPL today. I’m not totally certain, but I have just covered part of a short I had on.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 01:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
stars_5
Avatar
Total Posts:  1792
Joined  2008-05-06

FWIW, 885 is the 200 dma on the S&P.
edit: fixed the “220” dma wink

[ Edited: 07 July 2009 02:02 PM by ConMan ]
 Signature 

“the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent”
-John Maynard Keynes

Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 02:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
stars_big_2
Total Posts:  6324
Joined  2007-05-25
ConMan - 07 July 2009 01:58 PM

FWIW, 885 is the 200 dma on the S&P.
edit: fixed the “220” dma wink

Broke through to the downside, and now all hell is breaking loose. I exaggerate slightly. Some parts of hell seem to be holding up quite well.

[ Edited: 07 July 2009 02:16 PM by willrob ]
Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 02:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
stars_5
Avatar
Total Posts:  1792
Joined  2008-05-06
willrob - 07 July 2009 02:08 PM
ConMan - 07 July 2009 01:58 PM

FWIW, 885 is the 200 dma on the S&P.
edit: fixed the “220” dma wink

Broke through to the downside, and now all hell is breaking loose. I exaggerate slightly. Some parts of hell sem to be holding up quite well.

Yeah, the medical portion of Hell is still kickin’. Humana up nearly 5%.

 Signature 

“the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent”
-John Maynard Keynes

Profile
 
 
Posted: 07 July 2009 02:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
stars_big_2
Total Posts:  5601
Joined  2006-02-10
wheeles - 07 July 2009 11:47 AM

It’s possible that we may have just seen the low for AAPL today. I’m not totally certain, but I have just covered part of a short I had on.

It looks like I might be wrong on that. I’ll cover the rest of my short at S2 if it gets that far.

Profile
 
 
   
3 of 8
3
 
  • Buy Stuff, Support TMO!
  • Read TMO on Kindle

  • TMO on Twitter!

Apple Stock Quote

  • AAPL: $258.77. Change: +6.60.
  • (Prices delayed up to 20 minutes.)
  • Discuss in our Apple Finance Board

Hot Topics

TMO Express

Join the TMO Express Daily Newsletter to get the latest Mac headlines in your e-mail every weekday. Find out more!

Top Deals From DealBrothers.com

Recent Features

Support The Mac Observer

We noticed you may be running AdBlock on your computer. It takes real money to run this site and to deliver the news, tips, and opinions you love to read.

If you wish to block the ads that pay for the creation of our content, we ask that you instead support TMO Directly, either with a $5 monthly recurring contribution, or a one-time donation of any amount of your choice. Thanks!

Subscribe with Paypal Donate with Paypal