Eric Landstrom - 21 November 2009 11:21 PM

omacvi - 21 November 2009 12:17 PM

I agree with the premise of the article, however I don’t agree that is why the economy will take time to recover slowly.

If my world is illustrative of everywhere else, then you got a point: Today I drove to Fleet Farm to buy some doggy treats but came home in a new Lincoln crossover thingy. Then, while stopping into pickup some take-out, I ran into an old employee of a friend who owns a Chrysler/Jeep dealership and he told me that he sold three cars today.

Did you move to Alexandria to buy a new car at the Mill’s Fleet Farm dealership there?

VERY scary ....

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One cannot HAVE a recovery, if only those into stocks are benefitting, and so far, that is what I"m observing out there.

TanToday - 22 November 2009 08:32 AM

m_j_paquette - 21 November 2009 07:08 PM

Hmmm.  Somebody doesn’t care for the expense of what he feels is a useless and unwanted government.  Might I humbly suggest that Porter Stansberry relocate to someplace without all that bothersome and burdensome government.

Somalia.

So now it is unpatriotic to want to KEEP your own money?

Sometimes I find this “finance board” is peopled with more socialists than capitalists. Shows the state of edujumakshun here in the USA, when people find it “American” to think that the Gub’ment SHOULD be running everything, and we, the dutiful little droneslaves, should thank God we have such wonderful leaders to make all these decisions for us, given we have been taught that BELIEVING in the American dream, makes one a parasite nowadays?

TT you are being far too emotive….. take a chill pill. No one is saying that wanting to keep you own money is being unpatriotic. m_j_p is merely making a point that there is a balance between an overbearing government and no government at all. Surely any society requires some governance in order to function properly. And I am sure that you appreciate the benefits of laws made through governance. For instance everyone generally drives on the right side of the road because the law dictates it. As a result the roads are much safer than if everyone decided which was the best side to drive on. And while we are on roads, is it great that generally someone else fixes up the roads for us to drive on. That is the result of people agreeing to live in a society and collectively paying for things like roads and agreeing (if we are lucky to live in a democracy) to elect someone to decide all the rules about how to use the roads, which in turn makes them safer and so on.

Now to say that this board is sometimes peopled with more socialist than capitalists is just flame bait. What should it generally matter what people believe in on this board. It is the richness and diversity of opinion that makes this board great. In any case it was you that provoked this discussion and in the context of this board your opinion is not the only one nor is it necessarily the absolute truth. Same goes for your next sentence about ‘edujumakshun’, what ever that is? It is just flame bait, or perhaps it is just a rant, and if so, what is it doing on this board? It does not further anything it does not offer any meaningful solutions or ask any challenging questions. Who does ay for the $12T that the US government owes?

And what is the American dream anyway?

m_j_paquette - 21 November 2009 07:08 PM

Hmmm.  Somebody doesn’t care for the expense of what he feels is a useless and unwanted government.  Might I humbly suggest that Porter Stansberry relocate to someplace without all that bothersome and burdensome government.

Somalia.

Oh, sure, he might have to provide his own infrastructure.  He might need to hire mercenary forces to defend against the bands of nomads, warlords and technicals, and the odd pirate if he goes near the coast.  But he won’t be bothered by any pesky government.

Somalia’s problem is not “too much” government or “too little” government. Their problem is corruption in the government. Leaders that would starve and kill their own people, than take a chance of losing their power and control. Corrupt leaders, and those that support them, will destroy everything that they were suppose to protect. When government is no longer the servant but the master, the end of that society is near. The corruption in our government is at the point of being out of control. They are not to be trusted.

Somalia’s problem is not “too much” government or “too little” government. Their problem is corruption in the government. Leaders that would starve and kill their own people, than take a chance of losing their power and control. Corrupt leaders, and those that support them, will destroy everything that they were suppose to protect. When government is no longer the servant but the master, the end of that society is near. The corruption in our government is at the point of being out of control. They are not to be trusted.

The scariest words I ever hear coming from Washington, “we have come to a bipartisan solution.”  This is when I know we are all getting screwed. I think I remember reading something about a government being by the people and for the people. Our govt. is for the govt. 

We have come a long way from ” ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”.

Also - “government does not solve problems: it subsidizes them”.  A couple of my favorites.

mbeauch - 24 November 2009 12:30 AM

Somalia’s problem is not “too much” government or “too little” government. Their problem is corruption in the government. Leaders that would starve and kill their own people, than take a chance of losing their power and control. Corrupt leaders, and those that support them, will destroy everything that they were suppose to protect. When government is no longer the servant but the master, the end of that society is near. The corruption in our government is at the point of being out of control. They are not to be trusted.

The scariest words I ever hear coming from Washington, “we have come to a bipartisan solution.”  This is when I know we are all getting screwed. I think I remember reading something about a government being by the people and for the people. Our govt. is for the govt. 

We have come a long way from ” ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”.

Also - “government does not solve problems: it subsidizes them”.  A couple of my favorites.

Welcome back Mark.  I missed you.

TanToday - 24 November 2009 05:59 AM

Over the long haul, if one can break even with their house after factoring in taxes, maintenance, interest if they didn’t pay cash, and inflation, they’re doing well, IMO.