Thoughts on Flash - Steve Jobs

  • Posted: 02 June 2011 04:00 PM #61

    At all things D, Adobe Systems CEO Shantanu Narayen said his company?s flap with Apple over the software used in websites is over.

    On Thursday, Narayen said of the episode with Apple: ?Yes, the argument is over from our point of view. ?

    The argument was over the day Steve Jobs’s wrote his open letter. It’s just taking some longer than others to know that it’s over.

         
  • Posted: 02 June 2011 04:44 PM #62

    FalKirk - 02 June 2011 07:00 PM

    At all things D, Adobe Systems CEO Shantanu Narayen said his company?s flap with Apple over the software used in websites is over.

    On Thursday, Narayen said of the episode with Apple: ?Yes, the argument is over from our point of view. ?

    The argument was over the day Steve Jobs’s wrote his open letter. It’s just taking some longer than others to know that it’s over.

    Does that mean that Adobe has thrown in the towel?  If so, what do they plan to do about it?

    Or maybe Adobe thinks they won?

    Nah.  They can’t be that stupid…or can they?

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    Posted: 02 June 2011 04:57 PM #63

    Adobe was already on the floor outside the ring. No need to throw in a towel; the fight was over and everyone had gone home.

    We’re coming up on the 4th birthday of the iPhone and Flash on mobile devices is still crap. 200+ million iOS devices with 8-10 million more sold each month. If Flash was such a necessity, wouldn’t people abandon iOS for the limited number of Android, WP7 and Blackberry devices that support it?

         
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    Posted: 02 June 2011 05:01 PM #64

    Adobe threw in the towel when they announced that you could export HTML5 from Flash for mobile devices.  At that point Flash became an authoring tool which is where it belongs as opposed to a plug in architecture for web browsers.

    Speaking of which has anyone tried Hype?  I’ve been wanting to but haven’t found the time yet.

         
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    Posted: 02 June 2011 11:40 PM #65

    I just watched part of the Adobe CEO D9 interview. Narayan’s very good at confusing the difference between Flash Player for mobile devices and Flash development tools. The first is what is concerns the average consumer, while the 2nd is of concern only to some developers. Unfortunately, Mossberg didn’t nail him on the distinction.

    Mossberg did state that he’s had terrible experiences with Flash Player on all the Android devices he’s tested. Narayan responded with silence.

         
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    Posted: 03 June 2011 01:15 AM #66

    The part about “Flash sucks on Android” is by far the most important point. smile

    The utter irony of it all is that the Flash plugin itself isn’t and never really was all that big.  It’s like a 3MB download.  What we end up with is a massive indictment of the efficiency of the Flash runtime language/environment.  Kinda like Java, really…cross-platform code can never be as efficient.  Funny how a certain iOS competitor we know is Java-based.  Could that be why simple-seeming things like smooth scrolling are so hard to do?

    [ Edited: 03 June 2011 01:17 AM by Mav ]

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