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Posted: 29 December 2010 10:09 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 46 ]
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Wow, way to go Cdodge. One thing for sure is that we now know you are a bull on AAPL. lol

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Posted: 29 December 2010 10:44 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 47 ]
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Time to join the fun.  Overall I look forward to record breaking results from Apple.

Product       Units    ASP    Revenue
-------------------   ------  ------
Desktop        1481   1375     2036
Portable       2800   1275     3570
Total Mac      4281            5606
iPod          19292    170     3208
iPhone        16163    630    10183
Other Music                    1455
iPad           7800    660     5148
Other Hardware                  613
Software                        792

Revenue          27
,077
GM  37.5
%
Cost of Sales    16,923
R
&D                 500
SG
&A               1895
Operating Exp      2395
OI
&E                 65

IBT                7823
Tax Rate    24.5
%

Net Income         5868
Diluted Shares   937M
EPS 6.30  Fair Value 
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Posted: 29 December 2010 12:47 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 48 ]
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Keep up the good work everyone! This exercise will demonstrate to the world the best AAPL analysts can be found right here in the AFB.  smile

I’ll do my best to have all of the numbers posted New Year’s Day.

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Posted: 29 December 2010 11:49 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 49 ]
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adamthompson3232 - 29 December 2010 11:15 PM

What do people make of the fact that Apple did not have product shortages during the holiday season in its stores or online? I heard scattered reports of some stockouts at 3rd party retailers and internationally but overall I think this bodes EXTREMELY well for this Q’s sales. I was expecting more product shortages than we saw leading up to Christmas. It is logical that Apple would have ramped production of all product lines for the holiday Q but could this be the Q that Apple really opened the dam so to speak and sold damn near all of the significantly ramped production? I am VERY confident that we will see over $26B in revenue and $6.00+ EPS and my increased confidence is due in part to the fact that Apple had enough product on hand to satiate the overwhelming demand across its product lines.


Well, that’s one way to look at it. razz

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Posted: 30 December 2010 12:55 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 50 ]
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adamthompson3232 - 29 December 2010 11:15 PM

What do people make of the fact that Apple did not have product shortages during the holiday season in its stores or online? I heard scattered reports of some stockouts at 3rd party retailers and internationally but overall I think this bodes EXTREMELY well for this Q’s sales. I was expecting more product shortages than we saw leading up to Christmas. It is logical that Apple would have ramped production of all product lines for the holiday Q but could this be the Q that Apple really opened the dam so to speak and sold damn near all of the significantly ramped production? I am VERY confident that we will see over $26B in revenue and $6.00+ EPS and my increased confidence is due in part to the fact that Apple had enough product on hand to satiate the overwhelming demand across its product lines.

My new matrix (to be posted this weekend), indicates revenue anywhere near $26 billion will yield eps well above $6 per share.

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Posted: 30 December 2010 12:44 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 51 ]
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adamthompson3232 - 30 December 2010 10:21 AM

Asymco just posted his estimates in a comment on Deagol’s blog (aaplmodel.blogspot.com). Here is what he wrote.

Horace Dediu said…
I just looked back at my October 21 predictions:
http://www.asymco.com/2010/10/21/estimates-for-apples-first-quarter-earnings-january/

Decided only to adjust the tax rate a bit to get 5.90 EPS.

Pretty close to your call on most lines. I guess we differ on margin mostly.

Revenue: $25,498 million
EPS: 5.90
iPhone unit sales: 16,163 k
iPod unit sales: 18,873 k
Mac unit sales: 4,303 k
iPad unit sales: 6,000 k
Gross margin percentage: 37.5%

My numbers will come in a bit higher. smile

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Posted: 30 December 2010 02:47 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 52 ]
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Here are my numbers - as you can see, I’m expecting a blowout quarter…

Item   Units       Price/Unit   Revenue
iPhone   16,250,000     $625     $10,156,250,000
Ipad   7,000,000     $650     $4,550,000,000
Ipod   19,000,000     $160     $3,040,000,000
Macs   4,500,000     $1,240     $5,580,000,000
Itunes                         $1,275,000,000
Software                           $700,000,000
Peripherals                     $500,000,000
Total                       $25,801,250,000
GM         38.0%                $9,804,475,000
       
Expenses        
OE         $2,200,000,000
OI         $7,604,475,000
OIE             $25,000,000
Net Income BT         $7,629,475,000
Taxes     21.5%            $1,640,337,125
Net Income               $5,989,137,875
Shares Outstanding         $932,000,000
EPS         $6.43

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Posted: 30 December 2010 08:48 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 53 ]
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adamthompson3232 - 30 December 2010 10:21 AM

Asymco just posted his estimates in a comment on Deagol’s blog (aaplmodel.blogspot.com). Here is what he wrote.

Horace Dediu said…
I just looked back at my October 21 predictions:
http://www.asymco.com/2010/10/21/estimates-for-apples-first-quarter-earnings-january/

Decided only to adjust the tax rate a bit to get 5.90 EPS.

Pretty close to your call on most lines. I guess we differ on margin mostly.

Revenue: $25,498 million
EPS: 5.90
iPhone unit sales: 16,163 k
iPod unit sales: 18,873 k
Mac unit sales: 4,303 k
iPad unit sales: 6,000 k
Gross margin percentage: 37.5%

 


Dang, I thought those were mine for a moment.  What do you think now Adam big grin ?  Asymco has made me feel even better about my numbers.

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Posted: 30 December 2010 10:14 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 54 ]
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It’s $6 bucks a share or bust.  lol

See my numbers at Eventide sometime late on Sunday.  smile

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Posted: 30 December 2010 11:18 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 55 ]
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Just did the math and Asymco and I are only $164,500 apart in revenue. Dang that is close, less than a rounding error. razz

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Posted: 30 December 2010 11:41 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 56 ]
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mbeauch - 30 December 2010 11:18 PM

Just did the math and Asymco and I are only $164,500 apart in revenue. Dang that is close, less than a rounding error. razz

Well, for me, it’s the EPS # that counts.  And I too think AAPL will produce a $6+ number this quarter.  wink

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Posted: 30 December 2010 11:52 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 57 ]
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mbeauch - 30 December 2010 11:18 PM

Just did the math and Asymco and I are only $164,500 apart in revenue. Dang that is close, less than a rounding error. razz

Well, for me, it’s the EPS # that counts.  And I too think AAPL will produce a $6+ number this quarter.  wink

The EPS number has tricky variables like taxes and gm’s. The revenue number is very, very important, all of the numbers that are put out here are important because of what can be interpreted from all of them. Trends and such. I will not drink the kool-aid, but if it comes in over 6 eps, I will owe you a drink in Vegas. smile

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Posted: 31 December 2010 12:34 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 58 ]
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mbeauch - 30 December 2010 11:18 PM

Just did the math and Asymco and I are only $164,500 apart in revenue. Dang that is close, less than a rounding error. razz

Well, for me, it’s the EPS # that counts.  And I too think AAPL will produce a $6+ number this quarter.  wink

The EPS number has tricky variables like taxes and gm’s. The revenue number is very, very important, all of the numbers that are put out here are important because of what can be interpreted from all of them. Trends and such. I will not drink the kool-aid, but if it comes in over 6 eps, I will owe you a drink in Vegas. smile

You may owe me one too. A glass of Louis XIII will do:)


yeah, keep dreaming.  lol  I’ll by you a drink also, but it will be a shot of tequila. big grin   APPL would have to be a lot higher for me to be that generous. roll eyes

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Posted: 31 December 2010 01:54 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 59 ]
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Mercel - 30 December 2010 11:41 PM
mbeauch - 30 December 2010 11:18 PM

Just did the math and Asymco and I are only $164,500 apart in revenue. Dang that is close, less than a rounding error. razz

Well, for me, it’s the EPS # that counts.  And I too think AAPL will produce a $6+ number this quarter.  wink

eps growth is highly dependent on revenue growth and Apple will quicken the pace of product refreshes to keep both revenue and eps high. I’m also seeing over $6 per share in the December quarter.  smile

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Posted: 31 December 2010 06:39 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 60 ]
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mbeauch - 30 December 2010 11:52 PM

The EPS number has tricky variables like taxes and gm’s. The revenue number is very, very important, all of the numbers that are put out here are important because of what can be interpreted from all of them. Trends and such. I will not drink the kool-aid, but if it comes in over 6 eps, I will owe you a drink in Vegas. smile

I’m getting thirsty.  And we already know what libation you favor…  razz   EPS distills (pun intended) all the variables into one, zen-like # that drives AAPL valuation.  In other words, when you pour me that fancy tequila of yours, we won’t be talking about the ice in the glass…

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