The Steve Jobs As Chairman, Tim Cook As CEO Topic

  • Posted: 27 August 2011 04:43 PM #136

    Everyone:

    Let’s stop the vitriol and let’s move on with our informed and well reasoned posts. Our readers deserve better than to witness member squabbling at a time of change at Apple.

         
  • Posted: 27 August 2011 04:48 PM #137

    @lstream

    The point is that when SJ was the CEO, it was’t just about the money.

    But now, aparently, it is. 

    Sorry if this is too repetitive, or insulting for you.

         
  • Posted: 27 August 2011 04:57 PM #138

    iphoned - 27 August 2011 01:57 AM

    I know they want to keep a talent like Cook. But this is beyond reason.  Jobs worked for free, and Cook already has an enormous comp, and is not a founder.

    This will tear the exec team apart - imagine the envy of all the other stars that work for Cook who just get a “normal” comp…

    This is a beginning of the end of Apple as we know it…watch the execs leave one by one slowly…

    Tim Cook has been the day-to-day leader at Apple for years and served as interim CEO during the periodic absences of Steve Jobs. There’s no reason for an exodus from Apple simply because Tim Cook has moved into the CEO’s chair. Tim Cook’s respect for the management team at Apple has been stated repeatedly during quarterly conference calls with analysts and respect for Tim Cook, his passion for Apple, his respect for Apple employees and customers is a big factor in making Apple one of the most admired companies on the planet.

    Anyone who suggests Time Cook isn’t respected and held in high regard by the senior management team at Apple is simply not following the facts.

         
  • Posted: 27 August 2011 05:00 PM #139

    iphoned - 27 August 2011 07:48 PM

    @lstream

    The point is that when SJ was the CEO, it was’t just about the money.

    But now, aparently, it is. 

    Sorry if this is too repetitive, or insulting for you.

    Please back up your statements with fact. You are questioning Tim Cook’s motives and the competence of the compensation committee of Apple’s board. Tim Cook would have his choice of CEO positions anywhere in Silicon Valley if he chose to make himself available.

         
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    Posted: 27 August 2011 05:08 PM #140

    How much do you pay the person who is arguably the world’s most powerful CEO?

    Do you pay in cash?  Do you incentivize with RSUs?

    How much do the RSUs represent “payment”?  How much do the RSUs represent “recognition” (of his achievements, his value, his potential)?  (http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/22/apple-stock-options-backdating-personal-finance-steve-jobs_slide.html)  How much do the RSUs represent “just try to get Tim Cook, here’s an idea of how much you’ll need to pay to have a chance of outbidding us?” 

    These are very, very tough questions.

    This is hardly the first time Apple has given out big blocks of RSUs.  And in some cases, very large blocks of RSUs appear to have been left on the table (look around the SEC filings, see who was due to get vested RSUs next year and who’s no longer at Apple).  It’s just the first time AAPL has been way over $300/share.

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    Posted: 27 August 2011 05:24 PM #141

    DawnTreader - 27 August 2011 07:57 PM
    iphoned - 27 August 2011 01:57 AM

    I know they want to keep a talent like Cook. But this is beyond reason.  Jobs worked for free, and Cook already has an enormous comp, and is not a founder.

    This will tear the exec team apart - imagine the envy of all the other stars that work for Cook who just get a “normal” comp…

    This is a beginning of the end of Apple as we know it…watch the execs leave one by one slowly…

    Tim Cook has been the day-to-day leader at Apple for years and served as interim CEO during the periodic absences of Steve Jobs. There’s no reason for an exodus from Apple simply because Tim Cook has moved into the CEO’s chair. Tim Cook’s respect for the management team at Apple has been stated repeatedly during quarterly conference calls with analysts and respect for Tim Cook, his passion for Apple, his respect for Apple employees and customers is a big factor in making Apple one of the most admired companies on the planet.

    Anyone who suggests Time Cook isn’t respected and held in high regard by the senior
    management team at Apple is simply not following the facts.

    + 1 (or as many as I can give). Should be the end of a pointless discussion. WS and we know TC as well as we knew SJ.

    Nothing to see here….move along.

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    Posted: 29 August 2011 12:44 PM #142

    DawnTreader - 27 August 2011 07:43 PM

    Everyone:

    Let’s stop the vitriol and let’s move on with our informed and well reasoned posts. Our readers deserve better than to witness member squabbling at a time of change at Apple.

    I think it is ironic, Steve Jobs doesn’t exactly employ a sweetness and light management style, and is more than willing to eviscerate people as “bozos” and drop F-bombs in meetings, but we’re supposed to be Mr. Rogers in here when we see stupidity?

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  • Posted: 29 August 2011 03:47 PM #143

    Sometimes a very clever piece of humor can help.  I thought this piece, while poking a bit of fun at the myth that is Steve, did so without crossing the line of bad taste.

         
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    Posted: 29 August 2011 03:53 PM #144

    It’s one of their better comics. 

    Joy of Tech loves Apple.  They’d never cross any lines with respect to Steve.

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    Posted: 29 August 2011 04:12 PM #145

    JDSoCal - 29 August 2011 03:44 PM
    DawnTreader - 27 August 2011 07:43 PM

    Everyone:

    Let’s stop the vitriol and let’s move on with our informed and well reasoned posts. Our readers deserve better than to witness member squabbling at a time of change at Apple.

    I think it is ironic, Steve Jobs doesn’t exactly employ a sweetness and light management style, and is more than willing to eviscerate people as “bozos” and drop F-bombs in meetings, but we’re supposed to be Mr. Rogers in here when we see stupidity?


    LOL, I have to agree, regrettably.  :innocent:

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    Posted: 29 August 2011 04:30 PM #146

    JDSoCal - This isn’t the Rant Like Steve Jobs Board, though. 

    DT makes the rules, so you can always take it up with management.

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