You are here: Home → Forum Home → The Mac Observer Forums → Apple Finance Board → Thread
Thundering herd: iPhone edition
-
... based on the MSFT Phone demo, they actually have a phone I would choose ahead of Android.
The problem is that Android fans probably don’t see anything compelling enough to get them to switch to a Windows Phone. Microsoft needs Nokia to immediately turn out a Galaxy S3 competitor once WP 8 is released.
It doesn’t really do Microsoft any good for iPhone users to say that they’d choose a WP phone over an Android phone…hypothetically. It doesn’t matter if they are 2nd or 3rd choice when only 1st choice gets the sale.
-
... based on the MSFT Phone demo, they actually have a phone I would choose ahead of Android.
The problem is that Android fans probably don’t see anything compelling enough to get them to switch to a Windows Phone. Microsoft needs Nokia to immediately turn out a Galaxy S3 competitor once WP 8 is released.
It doesn’t really do Microsoft any good for iPhone users to say that they’d choose a WP phone over an Android phone…hypothetically. It doesn’t matter if they are 2nd or 3rd choice when only 1st choice gets the sale.
The “Anything but Apple” contingent will choose between MSFT and Google. The former may become the preferred option.
-
I suspect there is a better thread to post this in, but I don’t know which one it is, so here goes:
Cricket: Customers ‘Waiting at the Door’ For Prepaid iPhone
Cricket, a subsidiary of Leap Wireless, began selling the iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S to prepaid customers in its stores and through select dealers Friday morning with its $55 per month, unlimited talk, text, and data plan. Cricket customers were eager to get their hands on the prepaid iPhone, the company said.
“So far, customer activity has been brisk with customers waiting at the door as the stores opened,” a Cricket spokesman told PCMag in an email.First, it’s clear that Apple is expanding their carrier base as rapidly as possible.
Second, if the iPhone is successful in pre-paid - and I really mean “when” the iPhone is successful in pre-paid - a whole lot of bad analysis is going to get tossed in the trash can.
Not that I expect to hear any apologies from the naysayers.
Exciting times. Exciting times. I’d really like to start hearing word that Apple is rapidly expanding their carrier base in Europe and around the world. I think it’s happening but at far too slow a pace to suit me (because I don’t have to actually do any of the work).
-
News update:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/25/us-samsung-q2-earnings-idUSBRE85O01D20120625
Signature
The Summer of AAPL is here. Enjoy it (responsibly) while it lasts.
AFB Night Owl Team™
Thanks, Steve. -
Samsung Barred From U.S. Nexus Phone Sales in Apple Suit
Is this the new Samsung Nexus phone that Google gave out at the Google I/O?
If true, then this could be BIG!
-
New Samsung Nexus phone at Google I/O 2012?
I’m pretty sure it’s the Google Nexus from 2011. And if it’s being given away to attendees…and the bond to be put up is “only” about $100M…
[ Edited: 30 June 2012 02:16 AM by Mav ]Signature
The Summer of AAPL is here. Enjoy it (responsibly) while it lasts.
AFB Night Owl Team™
Thanks, Steve. -
It’s the Galaxy Nexus released in November 2011. None of the Google branded Nexus phones have sold well.
-
sleepygeek
- [ Ignore ]
A couple of points about Android/Samsung. Quite apart from the lower margins, there are specific problems with execution that mean the thundering herd is its own worst enemy.
Even now, only a small proportion of Android activations are the current release(4.0); most new Android phones are 2.3. So only a small proportion of new device buyers are attached to the living Google ecosystem. Every new iPhone buyer is on the latest IOS.
Because Samsung is a much more traditional operation, with multiple shipping smartphone models, a killer phone like the galaxy s3 probably does more harm to sales of other Samsung models than it does to competitors. The benefit of the new model is wasted in business terms, because it’s supply-limited. The other models become harder to sell. Hence the consumer electronics / Tim Cook mantra: inventory is evil.
-
Apple doubles its nearest Android competitor in market share
Not a single Android-based smartphone even comes close to Apple?s market share. In fact, Apple doubles its nearest competitor, Samsung, which has 17 percent market share.

http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/07/13/apple-doubles-its-nearest-android-competitor-in-market-share/ -
Nice graphic Drew Bear!
-
Apple doubles its nearest Android competitor in market share
Not a single Android-based smartphone even comes close to Apple?s market share. In fact, Apple doubles its nearest competitor, Samsung, which has 17 percent market share.

http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/07/13/apple-doubles-its-nearest-android-competitor-in-market-share/Do you know what that chart would look like if it were measuring profits instead of sales?
It would be all yellow…
-
Apple doubles its nearest Android competitor in market share
Not a single Android-based smartphone even comes close to Apple?s market share. In fact, Apple doubles its nearest competitor, Samsung, which has 17 percent market share.

http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/07/13/apple-doubles-its-nearest-android-competitor-in-market-share/Do you know what that chart would look like if it were measuring profits instead of sales?
It would be all yellow…
Just over a year ago, for all phones, not just smartphones, it looked something like this (from asymco):

Over time, profit share through Q1 2012 (again, for all phones, not just smartphones) looks like this (from asymco):

Signature
The only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. — Steve Jobs
-
If Apple were represented by the color red instead of yellow, it would be a bloodbath…
-
But but but Apple has a smaller subscriber base than Android in the US!
Funny, Apple leads in market share in the US last quarter and they use installed base for the graphic.Well, we’ll see what the US carriers have to say about market share starting next week.
Signature
The Summer of AAPL is here. Enjoy it (responsibly) while it lasts.
AFB Night Owl Team™
Thanks, Steve. -
Do you know what that chart would look like if it were measuring profits instead of sales?
It would be all yellow…
Horace used pale blue, but maybe he can do a 2012 version with Apple in yellow.

http://www.asymco.com/2011/07/29/apple-captured-two-thirds-of-available-mobile-phone-profits-in-q2/Edit: Sorry for the duplicate graph. I didn’t see II+‘s post.
[ Edited: 13 July 2012 05:33 PM by Drew Bear ]

