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June 4, 2018 5:38 EDT PM  

At WWDC on Monday Apple announced and subsequently released macOS Mojave 10.14 developer beta. Unlike High Sierra, though, this update does not run on all the same Macs that the previous/current version does, with 2011-and-earlier Macs being left behind. Macs that can run the macOS Mojave 10.14 Beta include: MacBook (Early 2015 or newer) MacBook…


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CudaBoy
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June 4, 2018 7:57 EDT PM  

What the heck is a "Metal" capable GPU? If I can't run Mojave on a perfectly robust mid 2010 5,5 Mac Pro tower that currently runs Sierra fine - Apple can kiss my grits. 🍎


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tnicely83
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June 5, 2018 2:21 EDT AM  

I think it is the IOS apps on MacOS that is the reason why you can't install 10.14 on pre 2012 MacBooks. Most IOS apps use metal for low level calls to the gpu to increase performance, and your pre 2012 MacBook does not have metal support. Apple plans on supporting IOS apps on Mac, which is awesome, but if you don't have a gpu that can run the Metal API, then you would be complaining about features that would not work. I feel your pain I have a really nice early 2011 MacBook Pro 15in Hi Res Anti Glare maxed out that I love, but looks like im going to have to upgrade to a new MacBook finally. I really loved this model because of the user being able to service or upgrade. I just wish they would make laptops that are not paper thin, not upgradable, and had all the ports included, but the majority of people don't know how to work on their own system, and don't understand computers, so we techies loose out... I love my hackintosh, but there is not a single good hackintosh laptop so I choose the real thing. Just sucks now cause I have to buy what I don't want too, but I understand why they cut pre 2012 MacBooks out, and It will be awesome to develop apps for both IOS and MacOS without having to deal with them as separate! Anyways CudaBoy, sorry but I am in the same boats as you!!!!!!


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CudaBoy
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June 5, 2018 7:01 EDT AM  

Anybody know if the ATI Radeon HD 5770 from my 5,5 mid 2010 Mac Pro will run Mojave?
If Metal has been around since El Cap - and the 5,1 could run Cap up to at least High Sierra - it looks possible, no? 🤷‍♂️_(ツ)_/¯


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William McIsaac
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June 5, 2018 8:01 EDT AM  

I am running a 2010 5.1 MacPro with an Nvidia 1080Ti gotten from MacVidCards. I run Geekbench 4 for Metal and it worked fine with a Metal score of 229634. For CudaBoy I am sure the ATI Radeon HD 5770 will work, but try running Geekbench. Also rather fascinating I know I have 2010 machine but in 'About This Mac' it now says it a Mid 2012 machine. I think the last update 10.3.5 probably changed it in preparation for Mojave.


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CudaBoy
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June 5, 2018 6:38 EDT PM  

Hey thanks William for the info; that's crazy your "about this mac" changed the "model year" of your 5,5. Almost Tesla-like. My tower is still running 10.12.6 and as such still says "mid-2010"
If I upgraded to High Sierra from Sierra you think mine would change the "model year"??
Was not hip to Geekbench - will give it a rip. Tx William! 🎼


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William McIsaac
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June 5, 2018 10:20 EDT PM  

CudaBoy, I reinstalled a HD 5770 in my MacPro and GeekBench did not give me an option to do a Metal test, only OpenCL. At your present configuration it looks like Mojave will not work. Since Mojave if free when it comes out in three months you can give it a try. Also the About This Mac still s


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William McIsaac
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June 5, 2018 10:24 EDT PM  

Had an error in mom process, with HD 5770 installed About This Mac still says Mid 2012.


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CudaBoy
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June 6, 2018 3:06 EDT AM  

Good thing I bought Nvidia scrip years ago.....(as he passes out thinking 1 Gig of VRAM on an ATI card that runs 2 monitors and World of Warships - Live doesn't cut it anymore? Eat me) Tx, W 🎬


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June 8, 2018 5:29 EDT PM  

The Graphics/Displays tab on the System information app will tell you if you have a Metal capable GPU. I have a 3Gig 7950 in my 2010 Mac Pro and it is capable. Yet my lovely machine can't run the Mojave beta.


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Paul Goodwin
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June 17, 2018 7:14 EDT AM  

Well, I’m not getting rid of my mid-2010 iMac just for this OS update. It still runs fine, it’s upgradeable, it has a CD/DVD drive, it has a flash drive slot.

I read something somewhere that before long you won’t be able to run 32 bit apps in MacOS.


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tnicely83
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June 22, 2018 7:37 EDT AM  

It has been two weeks since I posted, and I bit the bullet and bought a late 2013 MacBook Pro retina 15 with the 750m. I put a anti glare screen protector on it, and I must say that this is way way better than my 2011 hi res anti glare MacBook Pro. Hands down its better! Don't let anyone tell you the glare is ok with the retina; its horrible... its not as bad as the glossy, but still pretty bad. A kuzy anti glare screen protector makes it almost hi res anti glare quality. I say that apple did me a favor cause I was never going to give up my hi res anti glare, but now I'm glad I upgraded. This MacBook is so thin!


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