Google: Apple v Samsung Verdict Not a Problem for Us

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Following Apple’s courtroom win over Samsung in their patent infringement trial, Google has released a statement with its own take on what the jury’s findings mean for the company and other Android OS device makers. The short version: It’s no big deal.

Google’s brief statement reads:

The court of appeals will review both infringement and the validity of the patent claims. Most of these don’t relate to the core Android operating system, and several are being re-examined by the US Patent Office. The mobile industry is moving fast and all players — including newcomers — are building upon ideas that have been around for decades. We work with our partners to give consumers innovative and affordable products, and we don’t want anything to limit that.

A jury on Friday said that several of Samsung’s Android OS-based smartphones infringed on Apple-owned patents and went so far as to award Apple US$1.049 billion in damages. Samsung fared far worse with the jury saying Apple didn’t infringe on any of its patents and didn’t award the company any damages.

Google: Apple win isn't that big of a dealGoogle: Apple win isn’t that big of a deal

While Google gives the appearance that it isn’t overly concerned about the ruling, odds are the company is watching close to see how the injunction phase of the trial plays out next month, as well as any appeals that will no doubt land in the court’s lap. With this victory in its pocket, Apple is in a stronger position to take on other Android device makers, and potentially even Google.

Apple and Samsung also released their own statements following the trial. The iPhone and iPad maker said, “At Apple, we value originality and innovation and pour our lives into making the best products on earth. We make these products to delight our customers, not for our competitors to flagrantly copy.”

Samsung was clearly disappointed with the jury’s findings. “Today’s verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer. It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices. It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies,” the company said.

Apple and Samsung will face each other in court again in September for a preliminary injunction hearing where Apple is expected to ask Judge Lucy Koh to impose a ban on the import and sale for Samsung products that were found to infringe on its patents.

[Thanks to The Verge for the heads up on Google’s statement.]

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Nice to have such strong backing. wink


Even in Samsung’s final quote “...or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies,? the company said.  Samsung infers that all they do is copy other’s work to improved on it…

Lee Dronick

It wasn’t the rounded rectangle, or rectangular prism as the case may be, but the other elements of design on that prisim.

Bosco (Brad Hutchings)

And Lee, it wasn’t core Android either. The software patent stuff was TouchWiz stuff. That’s the layer of sugar, salt, or poop (as your individual tastes dictate) that Samsung puts over Android. It includes bounce back, which has been out of Android proper since Gingerbread. Google’s taking that out was coincident with Apple being granted the patent and starting down a road of enforcement. But Google has also been working diligently to find prior art and help invalidate some of these patents.

What Google is really doing here is taking this opportunity to tell the OEMs that they are safer when they stay closer to stock than when they wander away. If they stay close to stock, Google has to defend the stock stuff. And, here’s the key insight… Apple vs. Google in court would be a very risky crapshoot for both sides. A jury might love Apple, but it also might have 70% Android in its pockets and purses. Both are very highly thought of US brands. Both are highly revered in the Valley. Both are Disneyland for tech workers. By contrast and example, Oracle isn’t even Disneyland for database geeks. Look how their “slam dunk” case against Google went.

So the key insight is that Apple and Google will not be squaring off mano a mano in court, despite the wishes of some of either side’s rabid fans. OEMs who stay close to Google will be protected by that. Acer and Lenovo totally get that, shipping mostly stock Android tablets with app crap-ware instead of theme crapware. Sammie and HTC (to a lesser extent) should take note.


Google says:

We work with our partners to give consumers innovative and affordable products, and we don?t want anything to limit that.

including patent laws, others’ intellectual property, or people’s privacy.

They’ve proven this with books, street views, etc. I sometimes wonder if their motto has been misspelled all this time and should be: “Do KNOW Evil.”


including patent laws, others? intellectual property, or people?s privacy

ibuck: Thanks for pointing this out before I did.  Samsung and Google have a problem with the patent system.  The jury correctly decided that, under existing patent law, Samsung willfully copied Apple’s intellectual property.  Samsung and Google may feel that is not the way the system should work but the underlying principles of patent law, including design patents, have been around for a couple of hundred years. 

Further, to characterize Apple as “abusing” the patent system is just outright deception by Samsung.  Actually, Apple has been careful over the years to protect its intellectual property through the patent system.  Apple’s innovations have been the key to its success over the past 14 years.  Samsung and Google apparently think that Apple should not be entitled to a period of exclusivity for their innovations.  I don’t know any other industry that denies exclusivity for novel innovations.

John Dingler, artist

To say that ” ‘Today?s verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple,...” is to admit that Apple won, that Samsung admits that it lost, and, later in the response, that it’s living in LaLa land, but likely lying, when it says that the consumer lost. Glad to see that Apple finally, FINALLY, won an important case in its defense of its trade dress and other intellectual properties. Of couse, whiners will say that Apple is a serial litigant, yet it had to defend itself or else lose its hard won rights and innovative properties. Good for Apple. Good for me. Yeah!

By the way, Jeff, can your people make this input field expandable, you know, via a lower right corner handle? I would appreciate this.

Lee Dronick

John I can expand the comment window when using Safari on a Mac. However, I can not take it too far until the handle disappears under the story links.

John Dingler, Artist

Hi Lee,
Yes, I understand that some sites do not have the capability to expand toward the right beyond the story links, yet the Huffington Post is able to do so in its comments section. I really like that. However, expanding downward a whole lot would be excellent.

I use Safari on a Mac.

The implementation of this feature would allow me to see the whole post at one time and it would eliminate the need to scroll or use the arrow keys.

Interested conceptually in the method you would use. Would it be done site-wide at one time or would you have to enter that code page-by-page, that kind of thing. Not interested in a step-by-step how to as I will not have a need for it.

Lee Dronick

John from what I remember we used to be able to expand the box vertically more than a few lines. Then something on the site changed which also affected, or is it effected, iOS. I am not much more than an armchair web coder so I don’t know if it is CSS, HTML5, or something else.

I often compose a comment in TextEdit or Pages and then copy and paste it. That way I can better check spelling, grammar, white space and such. However, that is no longer possible here when I am using my iPad.

Facebook is very comment unfriendly. From a browser you need to enter shift-return to get a new line, return posts it. Their updated app maybe twice as fast, but it is four times as clumsy as the old one.

John Dingler, Artist

Hi Lee,
Hmmm, I don’t use any external editors and I stopped using Facebook as it wasted some of my time. My computer is an iMac and use the latest Safari.

Well, I suppose the webmaster—I am assuming he’s/she’s not you—must gotten the word of my wish for the corner handle.

Lee Dronick

Well, I suppose the webmaster?I am assuming he?s/she?s not you?must gotten the word of my wish for the corner handle.

I am not the webmaster here, only for my own site.

Yes Facebook can be a time drain, but it does help me keep in touch with family and old friends. Most them live back East and I only visit the home town every 4 or 5 years. I have made several new friends who were friends of friends, so that social networking aspect worked for me.

I use an iMac, MacBook Pro, and an iPad. Well an iPhone too.

John Dingler, artist

Hi Lee,
The participants in my local Occupy, in which I regularly participate, use Facebook as the primary method to quickly notify everyone about the latest action/activity, but I and just a few others resist Facebook because of the time issue…so far. I mean, between reading this site, which I think has the best writers, and all of the interesting news articles collected on, and my own artwork, I make do with the two online sources.

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