I installed it on both of my iMacs as well as an update to Tiger on the G4 and my iBook. No problems thus far, it is “snappier.”

I hope this version fixes my G5 Kernel panic issue or I am going to seek a legal solution.

I hope this version fixes my G5 Kernel panic issue or I am going to seek a legal solution.

Check any USB devices you may connected. I had one of those USB light sticks that was causing kernel panics. I removed it and have not had a panic since, well a kernel panic anyway.

I have an intel iMac, 2.8 GHz Extreme.  I have updated through 10.5.7.  With the release of Snow Leopard in September is this update really necessary?

Thanks Mac Observer for always letting me know of these updates long before I hear of them from Apple. Oh and the link to the download also. I went to the Apple DL area and 10.5.8 was nowhere to be see and when I did a search I got returns on 10.5.4 & .6, not .7 and certainly not .8.

Thanks!

P.S.
Still downloading (523Kbps). Will post back only if it fails. Other than that, Good Luck All!

I went to the Apple DL area and 10.5.8 was nowhere to be see and when I did a search I got returns on 10.5.4 & .6, not .7 and certainly not .8.

I find it best to use the “Software Update” under the Apple logo menu.

With the release of Snow Leopard in September is this update really necessary?

it is also supposed to fix some security concerns.

I find it best to use the “Software Update” under the Apple logo menu.

I learned long ago when on the phone with Apple asking if you could rerun the “Combo”, always use the Combo, over the same version install to refresh it? While on hold while the Tech Rep was checking with everyone else, Apple didn’t know if you could, I did it and it worked beautifully. And in the beginning Software Update did not select the Combo and tossed it when done. I DL and save to a future refresh. It works wonders when the OS starts to hammer and it will. That is if you catch it before it “hammers” too much.

I had all 10.4.x and 10.5.x Combo Updaters until a few weeks ago and tossed them to 10.5.5 to make room. These days you can never be too cautious.

I hope this version fixes my G5 Kernel panic issue or I am going to seek a legal solution.

You go tough guy!

  JoJo said:

  I hope this version fixes my G5 Kernel panic issue or I am going to seek a legal solution.

Check any USB devices you may connected. I had one of those USB light sticks that was causing kernel panics. I removed it and have not had a panic since, well a kernel panic anyway.

I have checked all of my USB devices.  The strange part of this issue is that the machine will run stable for about two weeks after a major update and then start to act crazy again.  It has something to do with Safari and playing video’s.  I can get around this problem by running cocktail every day.

JoJo—If it is Safari and videos, is it Flash video? I have found several problems with the latest version (Flash 10.x) and have reverted to Flash 9. An archive of all Flash 9 versions and instructions for removing and installing the proper one you need is here: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/142/tn_14266.html

The strange part of this issue is that the machine will run stable for about two weeks after a major update and then start to act crazy again.  It has something to do with Safari and playing video’s.  I can get around this problem by running cocktail every day.

Safari eating up RAM?

Safari eating up RAM?

Maybe?  But it does not explain why is usually takes two weeks before problems show and it does not explain why running cocktail helps to avoid the kernel panics.

JoJo—If it is Safari and videos, is it Flash video? I have found several problems with the latest version (Flash 10.x) and have reverted to Flash 9. An archive of all Flash 9 versions and instructions for removing and installing the proper one you need is here: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/142/tn_14266.html

At first I thought that was the problem but the issue still exist after dropping back to an older version of Flash.

no problem here as well.

Maybe?  But it does not explain why is usually takes two weeks before problems show and it does not explain why running cocktail helps to avoid the kernel panics.

It takes two weeks for Safari’s web history to fill, and possibly your cache to fill. That’s my guess… And running coctail empties the cache (flash issue?). I don’t know if it’s cleaning your history or not.

If I were you, I would start by reducing your history to only a few days—7 is probably more than enough, and if you have a broadband connection, reduce your Safari cache to the absolute minimum (mine’s one or two meg).

I’m betting that this will solve your kernel panic problem.

Maybe?  But it does not explain why is usually takes two weeks before problems show and it does not explain why running cocktail helps to avoid the kernel panics.

Do you leave the machine on every night? Unix has nightly scripts that get run. If you shut down, they do not, but Cokctail will run them on demand. Try leaving the machine on.

10.5.8 installed fine… from past experience I downloaded the combo version from the apple site.

AND it’s been a nightmare since… well it installed ok but ever since my airport and internet have been dropping…  even after permission checks and resetting the airport.  iChat is also crashing every 5 minutes.
I booted my MBP from my external back up that was running 10.5.7 and everything was fine.

I have managed to change the channel of the airport and bring back some of the connectivity but the speed is all over the map.

Why do I always update right away?

Do you leave the machine on every night? Unix has nightly scripts that get run. If you shut down, they do not, but Cokctail will run them on demand.

From what I understand that if you miss one of those CRON tasks it will run the next time the Mac starts up.

reduce your Safari cache to the absolute minimum (mine’s one or two meg)

How do we set the cache size? I don’t see anything in the Safari preferences.

I applied it as soon as it came out. No problems, no issues, no changes, no difference, not faster or slower. If About This Mac didn’t say 10.5.8 I wouldn’t even know anything had been done. I am however, going to set on it for a few more days though before I update my wife’s system. Don’t want to get the “Why are you always messing with my computer” speech.

How do we set the cache size? I don’t see anything in the Safari preferences.

Well, what do you know! I couldn’t find it either. (I don’t use Safari). I did find, however, that the beta of 4, at least has, in the “Safari” menu, an item, named, “Empty cache”, which will do just that. Also, I have the “Develop” menu turned on, and there is an item named, “Disable Caches” which will probably turn off the cache. It’s been too lonc since i added the menu, but I believe that Coctail, Onyx, MacPilot and others can turn on this feature.

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I have the “Develop” menu turned on, and there is an item named, “Disable Caches” which will probably turn off the cache. It’s been too lonc since i added the menu, but I believe that Coctail, Onyx, MacPilot and others can turn on this feature.

To show the Develop Menu in Safari go to Preferences then Advanced, there is a check box for it. I keep the Develop Menu on, it is handy for things such as disabling Javascript on a troublesome webpage.

I did the update and found that my connection to an LCD projector worked better: quicker discovery, better resolution agreement.  For me, that’s more than worth the price of the free update.

I hope this version fixes my G5 Kernel panic issue or I am going to seek a legal solution.

http://www.macmaps.com/kernelpanic.html

Everything seems a little crisper. But this may be like when your car seems to run better after putting air in your tires or washing your car.
JoJo let us know how you do against Apples lawyers with an old computer and many third party apps on that machine to gum things up. I had a g4 doing the same thing and it took me several weeks to figure out that it was a conflict I had induces. Save yourself the embarrassment.

Everything seems a little crisper. But this may be like when your car seems to run better after putting air in your tires or washing your car.
JoJo let us know how you do against Apples lawyers with an old computer and many third party apps on that machine to gum things up. I had a g4 doing the same thing and it took me several weeks to figure out that it was a conflict I had induces. Save yourself the embarrassment.

So far the machine seems to be running just fine.  We will see what happens after a couple of weeks.  Apple has said that my G5 dual core 2.3 will run just fine with Leopard.  So it hasn’t and that makes them liable.  No special lawyering is going to allow them dodge their responsibility.  And I can guarantee you that no company, including Apple, wants to fight a class action.

The other problem I am still having is that ever since I updated to 10.5.6 and beyond my machine will not sleep.

sounds good jojo you should do that. i’m sure that will work out for you

I find it best to use the “Software Update” under the Apple logo menu.

I have found Software Update to be glitchy.

Furthermore, I have also found that re-installing from a downloaded Combo Update (which I always keep) can solve System problems that nothing else can.

Software update worked fine on my aluminum unibody MacBook.  On my 24” White iMac, I tried it and it froze during the install.  Forced a reboot and downloaded the combo updater.  No problems thereafter.

Oh, and JoJo…Leopard works just fine on a G5.  As you seem to have no idea what is causing the kernel panic, it is quite possible that the issue is hardware related, and unless you have a late 2006 G5 under AppleCare, there is no liability on Apple’s part (Unles there is a known wide-spread manufacturing defect).  The next time you have a kernel panic, try looking in Console and see what caused it, then get your “Google on.”  If it’s software-related, chances are good the answer is out there.

After I have download the new update to my Mackbook Air, a message coming up saying that it can not install the software. What could be the problem.

jojo. 5 years ago my new G5 had kernal panics, but only on long 2 hour renders. but repeatable. i was a noob, brought it to repair. he told me 90% chance it was the 3rd party ram i had gotten free on purchase, and should pull it myself. i replaced it with good ram, and never had another kernal panic. pros will reinstall the OS about every year to keep her running right. so 3rd party ram can be funky, and an old mac osx install can too. good luck. s

5 years ago my new G5 had kernal panics, but only on long 2 hour renders. but repeatable. i was a noob, brought it to repair. he told me 90% chance it was the 3rd party ram i had gotten free on purchase, and should pull it myself. i replaced it with good ram, and never had another kernal panic. pros will reinstall the OS about every year to keep her running right. so 3rd party ram can be funky, and an old mac osx install can too. good luck. s

I was getting kernel panics with Apple ram.  The problems seem to occur after watching videos.  The machine would run perfectly for two to three weeks after which the kernel panics would return with a vengeance after a major update.  I have also run MEMTEST to check out the memory i have installed and it test perfectly.  And although not all of is Apple memory, only 512 MB, those pesky kernel panics were happening even before installed additional memory.

After the 10.5.8 update the machine was stable for about three days before showing these nasty issues.  This time I created a new account and transfered my documents over along with my photos and movies and everything seems to be very stable (only for about a day).  I am hoping that my account became corrupted and this will correct it.

Another area that I looked at is Adobe Flash.  But that did not stop the Kernel panics.

Prior to that I could also run Cocktail on a daily basis and the kernel panics became non-existent.

Do you still think this is a memory problem?

How many people who have responded on this forum shut down their Mac every night?

How many people who have responded on this forum shut down their Mac every night?

I do. I have them scheduled to do so via the Energy Saver preference pane. I may do it manually if I am going to bed earlier than usual.

My iMac mostly runs 24/7.  By this I mean it goes into sleep mode but I seldom shut it down.  When the spirit moves me I might perform a restart.

No what I need to know is who has a late model G5 (single chip dual core) mac?  If you do do you allow it run 24/7 and does it sleep?