RIAA Wants Radios in Portable Electronics

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The RIAA is proposing that Congress force handheld electronics makers to include FM radio recievers in their products as part of a plan to give consumers more choices when listening to music. The proposal, according to Ars Technica, would require all cell phones sold in the U.S., including the iPhone, include a built-in FM radio regardless of whether or not manufacturers or consumers were interested in having them in their portable electronic devices.

While record labels, radio broadcasters and the National Association of Broadcasters are on board with the idea, the Consumer Electronics Association thinks the proposal is a bad idea and said that it isn’t “in our national interest.”

musicFIRST, which includes the RIAA as a member, sees the forced inclusion of FM receiver chips in electronic devices as an important move for the broadcast radio industry. “musicFIRST, too, likes FM chips in cell phones, PDAs, etc. It gives consumers access to more music choices,” the group said.

Dennis Wharton from the NAB added “We would argue that having radio capability on cell phones and other mobile devices would be a great thing, particularly from a public safety perspective.”

Gary Shapiro, CEA president, sees mandated radio receivers differently. “The backroom scheme of the [National Association of Broadcasters] and RIAA to have Congress mandate broadcast radios in portable devices, including mobile phones, is the height of absurdity,” he said.

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43 Comments Leave Your Own

John Martellaro

“height of absurdity.” That says it all.

ctopher

Actually, I would prefer an AM radio. That way, when someone pushes the button and destroys the USA, I can listen to broadcasts bounced off of the ionosphere. (Or I can listen to late night baseball from the other side of the USA.)

vasic

As I was reading this, I was searching for the proper word to describe it. Mr. Martellaro did it for me: absurd!!

Let’s require that ALL cars come with built-in air conditioners (even if they’re sold in Alaska), and of course, we must force toaster manufacturers to include a digital clock on every model they make. After all, these are all practical and convenient things, and the government has the responsibility to ensure that all the citizens have access to practical and convenient things…

Lee Dronick

Actually, I would prefer an AM radio. That way, when someone pushes the button and destroys the USA, I can listen to broadcasts bounced off of the ionosphere.

Yep, CONELRAD

MyRightEye

Fricken liberals and their statism. The End of America has already begun.

B9bot

That’s the worlds dumbest proposal yet from the RIAA.
Consumers can choose a device with or without a radio on there own. They don’t need that forced upon them just because the RIAA wants it to be that way.
Wasting tax payees money on a stupid law like this is just ridiculous!

Lee Dronick

“Fricken liberals and their statism. The End of America has already begun.”

It isn’t the Government that wants this, but a cartel of private businesses.

MyRightEye

?Fricken liberals and their statism. The End of America has already begun.?

It isn?t the Government that wants this, but a cartel of private businesses.

And they are using the power of the STATE. That makes it STATISM.

vasic

And they are supported by some Republican lawmakers (who apparently will never miss a chance to support big business, no matter how absurd their goals are).

The end of America has already begun…

Lee Dronick

And they are supported by some Republican lawmakers (who apparently will never miss a chance to support big business, no matter how absurd their goals are).

An Inconvenient Truth smile

MyRightEye

And they are supported by some Republican lawmakers (who apparently will never miss a chance to support big business, no matter how absurd their goals are).

The end of America has already begun?

An Inconvenient Truth

Hey, I’m no Republican, nor do I respect them. Well, I’ll make an exception for Ron Paul. Both sides are the same. Thankfully more and more realize this. Vote ALL incumbents out in November. We can’t do worse than we have.

So not inconvenient for me.

jfbiii

Future headline: All SUVs To Be Sold With Pack Mule.

Dean Lewis

...Well, I?ll make an exception for Ron Paul…..Vote ALL incumbents out in November.

Yeah, that will work. Of course, no one seems to want to vote out their own incumbent. It’s all those other incumbents causing the trouble.

Hey, how’s that incumbency thing working out for Ron Paul?

MyRightEye

Yeah, that will work. Of course, no one seems to want to vote out their own incumbent. It?s all those other incumbents causing the trouble.

Hey, how?s that incumbency thing working out for Ron Paul?

Ron Paul just re-won his seat by the largest margin ever in his 11 terms/elections, so clearly he’s seen as part of the solution and a rare exception.

And I don’t see any validity to your statement no one wants to vote out their own incumbent. Some do, some don’t.

ronjamin

Would anyone miss the entertainment industry vampires if they went belly-up?

Dan M.

Not quite sure what smartphones have to do with interstate commerce…

kevinlane

If only there was something worth listening to on the radio.

marcsten

Pretty Funny! Typical of big business in this country -
we want to force you to make all devices the way we want you to by saying it gives you more choice! What’s wrong with that analysis?

Lee Dronick

If only there was something worth listening to on the radio.

I do listen to FM stations when I am driving around town. Mostly for traffic updates, but also to hear new music that I may want to buy at the iTunes Store. Also that the FM bands are so crowded here that my iPods and iPhones playing through a transmitter often get stepped on. Debating on getting an AUX input installed or wait until I get a new vehicle with a “modern” sound system. On a road trip while driving in rural areas, no problem with my FM transmitter.

Emergency situations are a good reason to have radio around. I have one of those multi-band and multi-powered radio receivers. It has a hand cranked generator in case the power goes out and the battery runs down. During the last two bad brush fires here in San Diego I was a few blocks away from being evacuated, fortunately they stopped the fires from reaching my neighborhood. The high tension power lines coming from out of area were shut down and there isn’t enough local power plant capacity; Tijuana’s power plant kept San Diego going, just barely.

Dean Lewis

And I don?t see any validity to your statement no one wants to vote out their own incumbent. Some do, some don?t.

You don’t see the validity when you yourself said, “Vote ALL incumbents out in November?” ALL does not mean there are any exceptions. If you’re going to allow for exceptions, then you have to put up with other voters making their decisions to keep their incumbents as well. You don’t get to have it both ways, and then complain about it, off-topic, on a computer news site.

Sorry for my part continuing the off-topic bit, folks.

vasic

Dean,

I think he really meant, get them ALL out and vote the entire fresh house in. He may have come across as right-leaning, but ultimately, I think he was trying to say he is tired of all the politicians, as the current batch seems to be the same, no matter what party.

MyRightEye

I think he really meant, get them ALL out and vote the entire fresh house in. He may have come across as right-leaning, but ultimately, I think he was trying to say he is tired of all the politicians, as the current batch seems to be the same, no matter what party.

Thank you, I thought it was kinda obvious.

Tiger

Sounds like the NAB is trying to hold on to relevancy. Video may have killed the radio star, but Mp3 put the nail in the coffin. Or should I say the iPod put the RIAA in the E.A.R.T.H.

vince7

I think many of you are missing the point.  RIAA is all about money.  Once this action is taken to force radio on all of us, how long before fees start popping up on our phone bills?  RIAA wants to turn the various cell providers into bill collectors.  Then naturally the cell providers will have to charge the customers a small processing fee.

I don’t even listen to the radio in my car.  Same for the cable TV music channels.  With services like iTunes and others we can listen only to the music we like via iPhone, iPod and etc.  BTW ... I am a liberal on social issues.  This isn’t a social issue.  This is simply an example of overreach by a greedy corporate organization.  As long as we keep devouring each other because of stupid labels, we will never join forces to combat our true enemies.

ipaqrat

That’s ironic. It’s the recording and broadcast industries’ pay-to-play complicity and pathological dedication to mediocrity, that made radio so crappy that - wait for it… MADE MUSIC THEFT THE PROBLEM IT BECAME FOR THE RECORDING INDUSTRY.

#$%@ FM radio! (except c-span and NPR).

Too bad RIAA, you’re the Neo-Luddites we find simply irritating, yet laughable.

CudaBoy

Ha HAA!! Desperation!! I wish the RIAA would go back to wasting resources to bust illegal cassette copy vendors downtown L.A. or trying to sue Sony (unsuccessfully)  because VCR’s can record stuff… ooops, that was in the 80’s. Of course all those cassette copies and Betamax recorders brought down the whole industry…..not.
If the RIAA wants give away FREE cellphones AND free service, I will gladly accept a device with an FM chip I can ignore inside.
It ain’t a liberal v conservative thing, it’s capitalistic greed vs freedom of choice thing.

Jamie

“. . . It gives consumers access to more music choices,?

That’s the most absurd statement of all if you ask me. They must really be missing all that payolla revenue. wink

MyRightEye

It ain?t a liberal v conservative thing, it?s capitalistic greed vs freedom of choice thing.

Talk about showing your ignorance. Capitalism is about a FREE MARKET. Lobbying the government is the OPPOSITE of a free market.

You got the GREED part correct, but you’re deserved a facepalm for trying to link it to the very thing that opposes this kind of Statist BS. I’m guessing you’re a liberal that just don’t know any better, but after you clowns voted in Obummer, ignorance is no longer an excuse.

CudaBoy

Talk about showing your ignorance. Capitalism is about a FREE MARKET.

Really? That’s why 90+% of the wealth is in the hands of 1%??
Thank goodness you idiots won’t be in power for the foreseeable future.

MyRightEye

Really? That?s why 90+% of the wealth is in the hands of 1%??
Thank goodness you idiots won?t be in power for the foreseeable future

Wow. Ignorance is bliss hu…

furbies

I do listen to FM stations when I am driving around town. Mostly for traffic updates, but also to hear new music that I may want to buy at the iTunes Store. Also that the FM bands are so crowded here that my iPods and iPhones playing through a transmitter often get stepped on. Debating on getting an AUX input installed or wait until I get a new vehicle with a ?modern? sound system. On a road trip while driving in rural areas, no problem with my FM transmitter.

Sir Harry.

My Dad has a similar problem, with using a FM transmitter on his iPod.
What he does, is unscrew the car’s fm antenna from the car roof.
It helps a lot to block out “near by” FM transmitters

CudaBoy

Wow. Ignorance is bliss hu?

so is unemployment.

furbies

Can the RIA charge for each FM receiver installed in a “device” ?

Just asking because I’m not a US citizen.

Here in Oz, the organisation that represents music creators (musicians, not record labels), has a deal where it charges per speaker where music is played in public.

Lee Dronick

My Dad has a similar problem, with using a FM transmitter on his iPod.
What he does, is unscrew the car?s fm antenna from the car roof.
It helps a lot to block out ?near by? FM transmitters

Hmmmm, I wonder if I can rig a switch on the antenna cable. Either that or just stop being such a cheapskate and get a new car stereo that has an AUX input.

furbies

get a new car stereo that has an AUX input.

When I finally bit the bullet, and got a car a couple of years ago, I waited 2 months for the next model to be released because it had a “mp3 input” (read: 3.5mm headphone jack) in the front of the head unit.

ctopher

Damn you Sir Harry! I’ve read the Wikipedia article on CONELRAD and then I found a treasure trove of Cold War goodies at www.conelrad.com.

It’s wasted my entire lunch and now I’ll have to go back tonight to listen to old recordings of the red menace!

CONELRAD indeed!

But wouldn’t a radio receiver allow the government to communicate with the people in an emergency? <- political troll bait!

Lee Dronick

Damn you Sir Harry! I?ve read the Wikipedia article on CONELRAD and then I found a treasure trove of Cold War goodies at www.conelrad.com.

It?s wasted my entire lunch and now I?ll have to go back tonight to listen to old recordings of the red menace!

I grew up in the ‘50s and ‘60s and remember all of that stuff. I

Here is a photo of a Fallout Shelter sign on my elementary school. My classmates and I watched the custodian put this particular one up and that stuck with me. I went back two years ago for high school reunion and was amused to see the sign still there.

algr

Fricken liberals and their statism. The End of America has already begun.

Corporations try to use their government puppets to ram something down America’s throat, and conservatives respond by wanting to make government even weaker and corporations even stronger.  That is what is killing America today.

MyRightEye

Corporations try to use their government puppets to ram something down America?s throat, and conservatives respond by wanting to make government even weaker and corporations even stronger.? That is what is killing America today.

Oh you fricken ignorant ass-hat. It’s Liberals like yourself that have NO understanding of how the current corporatocracy works, and how it has been allowed through LIBERAL _NOT_ Conservative politics, that are allowing this nation to be utterly vanquished.

The corporations that are in bed with govt, are LIBERAL corporations in the VAST majority. Just look up who they are donating to! Not the Conservatives, but the LIBERALS.

It is these major corporations that hire the lobbyists, like McDonalds and WalMart for example, that lobby for MORE regulations in order to destroy their weaker competitors. They have laws pass that they know will cost them lots of dollars, but knowing full well that their competitors will be forced out of business because they will not be able to afford the cost of those regulations, leaving them with MORE dollars in the end as their competitor’s customers are forced into their own stores instead. This can ONLY happen under your LIBERAL politics in a LIBERAL government. Under a free-market driven nation, where government was severally limited, this lobbying to destroy other business could not exist. You liberals think you’re so smart and have all the answers, but your solutions to today’s economic and political problem are the very things that caused the problems in the very first place. Namely, MORE and BIGGER government.

The solution, the only solution that will work, is to end the corporatocracy that’s currently masquerading as Capitalism, and restore true Capitalism, unfettered by the controls of lobbyist and pandering, bought-and-paid-for Congressman. Your liberal “solutions” will only server to STRENGTHEN the very thing you pretend it will fix.

We do not have Capitalism in America, we have not had Capitalism for 100 years. So stop blaming something our generation has never even experienced, and pull our head of the sand, read something like “A Treatise on Economics”, and get an education outside of your public schooling and television.

And just FYI… I am _NOT_ a Conservative. I am a Jeffersonian libertarian. I stand with _most_ of the founders of our great nation, not the Republicrat Duopoly we have today. When I say “liberal” it applies as much to the Republican party as the Democrats. They are BOTH liberals.

/rant

CudaBoy

Liberals like yourself that have NO understanding of how the current corporatocracy works, and how it has been allowed through LIBERAL _NOT_ Conservative politics, that are allowing this nation to be utterly vanquished.

Your boy Ronny Reagan deregulated the banking industry leading up to the arrogant greed and shady packaging of bad loans that crashed Wall St. Was he a Liberal??

True Capitalism requires a Free Market and there IS NO SUCH THING. NO modern economy on earth has a “free market” economy.
Most experts and simulations point to a free market economy ending up with the unfair distribution of wealth and ironically government (social) intervention to correct it.(see monopoly busting)...
you know, the same Govt that stepped in to create our national highway system and the Hoover Dam etc.
Our economy sucks right now; we need to grow this puppy. As such, there is NO connection between so called economic freedom and GROWTH.Where’s the proof? All I know is that every time a conservative left office in the last 20 years we are left with a deficit and a mess. What you call True Capitalism (whatever the heck that is) is just a buzzword used by Libertarians.
Now you can go back to bothering people outside of grocery stores.

MyRightEye

Your boy Ronny Reagan

MY boy Ronny??

You might want to pay a LITTLE more attention next time. Typical liberal, selective EVERYTHING.

And it was your LIBERALS that created the Freddy/Fanny mess. Do you’re stinking homework. You’re a typical ignorant liberal, getting all your facts from your television and newspapers.

And if you don’t even know what Capitalism IS, then you have ZERO business even commenting on this topic.

It’s unbelievable what you wrote, but you know hat the worst thing is, YOU BELIEVE what you wrote. WOW….

CudaBoy

And if you don?t even know what Capitalism IS, then you have ZERO business

What do YOU think Capitalism is??? Depending on if you talk to an economist, a politico, or a historian there is NO ONE consensus of what Capitalism is. The word Private comes up a lot but that is about the only common word. Either way, most agree it has to do with a mixed economy in practice, not a FREE MARKET as you like to say. Do your homework!
It’s easy for you anarchists to sit back and sling insults like a child, but when push comes to shove you have ZERO ideas about how to fix anything. All your rhetoric is based on paradigms that DON’T EXIST and NEVER DID! Can you give me ONE example of your “true Capitalism” since the demise of feudalism?
Can we take this to a more appropriate forum before the Mac faithful fall asleep???

Caepan

Those darn kids, wanting to listen to music that corporate radio stations won’t play! I blame the internet. And video games… yeah, that’s it.

After all, doesn’t everybody want to hear the same 8-10 songs over and over again every hour? Al least that what the marketing consultants tell the corporations that run the radio stations. Maybe there is someone out there that hasn’t heard “Stairway to Heaven”, “Friends in Low Places” or “Borderline” enough times in their life?

But then again, I mostly listen to CBC Radio One and Two. I’m just mooching off Canadian taxpayers for my music and information!

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