Wi-Fi Mesh Systems Compared: eero, Orbi, AmpliFi


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Page 5 – Apple, Google, Luma, The Prices and The Verdict

eero's mesh – like others – blankets your home in Wi-Fi

eero’s mesh – like others – blankets your home in Wi-Fi

What about Apple? Google? Luma?

Just yesterday we saw the news that Apple has reassigned their Wi-Fi engineers away from the AirPort-related teams and doesn’t plan to continue developing standalone routers. My guess is that Apple knew they either needed to develop their own mesh product or get out of the way for others. Seems they chose the latter, which makes sense. Apple is not a “me too” company, they’re a “here’s a better way company.” My guess is they took a look at current mesh offerings and decided they had nothing to add to this particular conversation. Based on my recent tests, I can see why.

Google Wifi looks very interesting but was not yet available for us to actually test. Google’s internal tests have shown it to beat the eero, but that was likely done before eero released their TrueMesh upgrade last week which, for many, doubled wireless throughput. There will be more to say here shortly.

Luma, too, was something we tried to test but they went radio silent during the process. There could be any number of reasons for that, including their PR team just being plain busy, so we’ll revisit that when they circle back around. Keep on eye on Mac Geek Gab for that discussion.

In fact, one guarantee is that all of these things will change. While mesh Wi-Fi has been available in the enterprise for years it is brand new to the home this year. Software updates are happening at the pace of several-times-per-month for these devices, and some of those updates bring major enhancements. We’re router geeks, though, so this will remain an ongoing conversation here at TMO and MGG.

The Prices

  • eero: 3-pack US$499. 2-pack US$349. Individual eero US$199. Full disclosure: eero is currently a sponsor of our Mac Geek Gab podcast. While that sponsorship had no influence on my findings here it does offer you, dear reader, a deal. This weekend only (11/24-11/28/2016) you can take $100 off the 3-pack or $50 off the 2- or 1-pack. On top of that if you use coupon code MGG at eero’s online store you qualify for free overnight shipping.
  • Orbi: 2-pack US$399. Add-on Satellite US$249.99. 3-Pack pricing unavailable at press time.
  • AmpliFi: Standard system: US$199.00. AmpliFi LR $299. AmpliFi HD (the unit we tested) $349. All three come with the same base station. The differences are in the number of radios and power of the mesh points.

The Verdict

As I mentioned in the intro, given all this I feel like the eero is the best product to recommend to most people today. WAN-Based QoS is a must-have in my opinion and experience, and eero is the only one currently offering that for the mesh. Additionally, eero’s support for Ethernet backhaul is something I find many larger homes will use because they already have it, and that makes the mesh far more efficient.

Netgear’s Orbi, however, is very close behind. In addition to the fact that they likely will support Ethernet backhaul via firmware update sometime soon, theirs is the only mesh to have a third radio dedicated only to wireless backhaul between mesh devices. This frees up the other two radios for client communications.

If your home can already benefit from Ethernet backhaul, the eero is at the top of my list. If you don’t need that right now, the Orbi is a serious contender and perhaps the best option because of its third radio dedicated to wireless backhaul. Just be aware that Orbi is missing WAN-based QoS. With lots of devices wanting to upload pictures and backups all the time, that can become an issue very quickly.

AmpliFi continues to intrigue me, if only because it comes from Ubiquiti, the enterprise-networking and Wi-Fi powerhouse. I feel like they’ve missed a bit not including support for any remotely-connected Ethernet devices, but there’s nothing stopping them from releasing additional mesh points with that capability.

If your home’s layout is small enough and you don’t have many wireless devices, mesh may not yet be for you. But if you’ve been fighting with range extenders and other solutions to broaden your Wi-Fi coverage and keep your streams alive, you can now stop all that silliness and blanket your home with Wi-Fi. The future is here, and that future is mesh networking.

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danb4me

Bought the eero system based on article review, with special focus on eero offering Qos. My question is how Qos management relates to buffer bloat? I expected my buffer bloat grade to be fairly good using dslreports speed test. Actually it is a gigantic F. I had been using an evenroute router that manages upload buffer bloat and gives me A scores at this site, though drops both upload and download speeds a bit to do so. I am on DSL with 25 down and <2 up and lots of connected devices/game systems, etc.

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DDM60

Mac users beware. I’ve owned 3 EEROs since August 2016. Despite promises the next update will fix the problem, the EEROs do not work with Mac products. In order to maintain a WiFi signal, I must cycle WiFi on my Macbook pro, iPad, and iPhone off then back on again. And I need to do this every 5 minutes or so. EERO knows of this problem, but they don’t have a fix. Here is a quote from EERO customer support “The Mac issues you are having are issues we are aware of but continue to persist. With each update we… Read more »

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Orbi Smart Devices and Hubs Problems Problems with smart hubs and devices that require the 2gh only. Hi I tried past stand alone wifi routers (Asus,Linsky) priced over $300 and now the Orbi. My home is over 4200 Sq Ft. on the Orbi speed test show great speed up and down no matter where I maybe be in or out of the house (Down Load 238 MHPS Upload 35.33 are the avg) The house has over 40 wifi devices smart devices lights,, tv, Ring door bell, harmony hubs and others. The 2 gh devices work intermittently other’s 2gh smart devices… Read more »

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NotTellingYou

In addition to the other issues relied with Eero did you bother to read their terms and conditions? Did you read they DEMAND you tell them who you are and where you are? Did you read they will cancel your service if they find out you lied? Did you read you can’t use your name etc., to set up a parent’s system? Did you read they can and will update without your knowledge or consent while not telling you what’s been changed? That they will collect data of the wireless networks around you and that you have no control over… Read more »

dominickgarton@mac.com
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Like 30% of the US I don’t get any broadband internet at home. The only way to get any internet at all is a Verizon jet pack cellular hotspot which works fine as long as you don’t get any crazy ideas like streaming movies in 4k or even regular 480p. The jet pack has a USB output which one can theoretically tether to other devices. It covers a radius of about 15 feet ok so a bit weak for a whole home.

Any ideas if the Eero would play nice with this for the 30% without nice broadband?

mrbofus
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mrbofus

“Orbi: 2-pack US$399. Add-on Satellite US$249.99. 3-Pack pricing unavailable at press time.”

The Orbi 3-pack is $499 at Costco; it’s been available since at least the beginning of November, but I think I saw it at my local Costco in October too.

webjprgm
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webjprgm

If I have my internet router upstairs on the second floor in one corner of the house and my TV in the basement in the other corner of the house, will I need 3 access points to bridge that? My Airport Extreme from upstairs covers floors 1 and 2 quite well, then I have a flaky power line adapter system running from upstairs to the basement and occasionally breaks down when trying to watch anything via wifi with AirPlay to the TV. Since an Airport Extreme cannot reach the basement, I’m assuming the Eero/Orbi/AmpliFi access points won’t reach the basement… Read more »

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Base on this article I purchased 6 eeros ( have 3 floor house). The app has what it calls “Family Profiles”. A very easy way to limit WiFi usage for anyone at anytime. The default name for any new profile is call “Bedtime”

Very easy to use, tells you when you’ve placed a eero too far away from the others, each unit reboots automatically if they detect a problem. One of the best interfaces I’ve ever seen and support QoS so a Netflix’ing/YouTub’ing teenage doesn’t slow down everyone else down.

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John Skinner

I have seen other consumer solutions to manage family member usage (only let Sally’s devices on the internet until 8:00 PM). Do any of these mesh systems have usage controls like this?

curby
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curby

I just got off chat with the Amplifi support folks, and the rep said you can buy multiple Amplifi routers, connect them via Ethernet, and use the satellites as Ethernet mesh points as you can with Eeros. At $150/router for the HD version, a “3-pack” costs more than the $350 Amplifi HD kit but arguably gives more flexibility and expansion (each can also double as a 4-port switch for wired devices). Can anyone corroborate this info? As noted in the article it would be nice to make use of existing ethernet runs through the walls of a house when possible… Read more »

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Ayrstone

Great article! Another WiFi meshing product – an outdoor system for farms and rural households – was covered briefly on the Mac Geek Gab back in 2013 (MGG 436) – Ayrstone, which is still around. Not for use in the house like these products, Ayrstone makes WiFi available outside in the countryside – in the garden, on the lake, or across the farm.

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Wes Shull

I went w/AmpliFi LR and it was on sale on Amazon…and I couldn’t be more pleased after the first four days of use. Speeds great, no dead spots, easy to use and most important…the fastest tech support I’ve ever seen w/national product. You start a chat and you’re with someone in a few seconds. I also think the plug-in mesh antenna’s are a smart design choice. No wires to plug in and the magnetic heads really help when you walk by and accidentally dislodge them…no way to break these unless you deliberately try. All the units are solidly built. I… Read more »

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parallax

Really great article! All things being equal, I love the way the Orbi sounds. However, the price just seems a good $100 too high. Since my internet connection comes in at the center of the house, to extend the network to all rooms (and particularly to my hammock outside!) I need at least 3 units. So a 3 pack of Orbi would run $650. For $50 less than 2 Orbi, I can get a 3 pack of AmpliFi. I don’t have anything that NEEDs ethernet instead of 802.11 n or AC, so I think I should be fine without ethernet… Read more »

rh1
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rh1

How do any of these mesh systems coexist or replace the current router I might have! I have Uverse TV and Internet. I could plug one if these units unto a switch connected to my router. As you may know, the Uverse gateway has wireless transmitters to connect to the receivers if the different TVs I have, so I don’t want to interfere with that part of the network. If I can then use the mesh units to extend my existing network, that would be great.
Thanks for the article. Very helpful.

venus535
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venus535

It should be noted that Orbi and AmpliFi (this is exclusive to Amazon for now) are also available as stand alone routers. Also of interest, a second AmpliFi stand alone router can be configured as a mesh point. I’ve had the stand alone AmpliFi router up and running since 11/23 and I’m very impressed with its consistency both with testing and real world streaming. The Orbi might be a better performer and might have been my choice if I needed a mesh system but IMO the esthetics of the AmpliFi is much better and I couldn’t be happier its performance.… Read more »

Mark Withers
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Mark Withers

Great article! I have been considering mesh networking for our home and you really gave me great options and points to consider for each.

Tek
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Tek

I wanted to point out one of the biggest problems for me with these systems and that is that they need to have connection with the central server in order to work AT ALL. I had Eero that I tested and in the middle of test we lost power due to high winds. I got everything going on my generator but Eero network would not work at all without connection to the Eero central servers. This means that whole internal network in my house was down. This also means that if for whatever reason, Eero servers down, Eero goes out… Read more »

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briandigital

Thanks for the article, I look forward to seeing this field grow. I definitely got more from this article than other similar articles. If I were picking one up over the holidays, it sounds like all their wireless performance are similar? I should decide based just on features? How’s the usability of the configuration interfaces? I was interested in eero but the price was high and I’m not sure I want cloud-access into my home’s network, especially considering the insecurity of the IoT. (The network I manage at work does have a cloud based backend to its network hardware and… Read more »

murtuzza
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murtuzza

Dave – there is a also Edimax which has also recently released the new AC1200 kit for Wifi Home mesh – you should also include that in your review and tell us how it goes